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This is the channel for the discussion of metaphysical and parapsychological subjects. Please keep discussion of these topics to this channel and out of the rest of the server.
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Albino Elephant 12/25/2018 7:24 PM
Most meta servers have a library of some sorts
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Albino Elephant 12/25/2018 7:58 PM
Yo @Mystes would you mind giving a scan?
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@Albino Elephant what about?
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Albino Elephant 12/25/2018 8:06 PM
My energy system
8:07 PM
Apparently allowing yourself to get emotionally unstable clogs it up
8:07 PM
who knew 🤷
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I mean, if that's true then I'm really lacking proper scale since you're still the guy with the most dynamic energy I've ever scanned, lol. Like, there's this whole flow to it, even if it looks like it's got like, negative spin? As in, rotating clockwise when going up, looking from the top. Not even sure if it's the right sense or not. Also your energy makes my chipped tooth ache, hah. But all in all, emotional outbursts are very valid energetic channels, especially for the repressed stuff; it's excellent opportunities to reappropriate that sequestered energy. I'm not sure if this is your standard level of inner action, since it's already looking like plenty to me; maybe it's just altered pathways a bit? And it's not going in the places it should?
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Albino Elephant 12/25/2018 8:22 PM
That spiraling is from a thing I did to it. I thought it would be useful if it spiraled around me (it was). The rest of that I got, I was just hoping that an outside viewpoint could pinpoint something specific wrong since i couldn't. I already cleaned it up quite a bit but there are just a few strange flows I can't find a reason for. I'll just leave it be and it should go away naturally as I get control over my mind again.
8:22 PM
Thanks though
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if you want something specific, check maybe around the upper left arm? just a hunch I got
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Albino Elephant 12/25/2018 8:24 PM
You wanna hear the story of how my energy system got this complex?
8:24 PM
Also, it contains why my upper arm is in disarray
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well, yeah I'm kinda curious
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but it's cool if you're not up for it
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Albino Elephant 12/25/2018 9:11 PM
Sorry, I got pulled away by irl issues. I'll have to tell it later
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it's fine
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Interesting
9:12 PM
Good thing to know I’m not alone in some aspects
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If anyone feels like trying it, I have this sigil here that correlates to a spot on the beach in my wonderland, meme it into a door and walk through it. Then see what happens.
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@Xe seriously ?
5:02 PM
I say that because it looks like an emoji with sunglasses but if its serious i'll try it
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@Spoony#1628 if you want i have a more normal looking version of it, a friend of mine wanted a more cartoony sigil so they could mentally envision it better
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TIL that Dan Shechtman was shamed for his ideas on quasicrystals. A Nobel laureate commented that 'there is no such thing as quasicrystals, only quasi-scientists'. In 2011 Dan Schechtman was awarded the Nobel Prize for the discovery of quasicrystals. https://www.reddit.com/r/todayilearned/comments/agd0fi/til_that_dan_shechtman_was_shamed_for_his_ideas/
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11:53 AM
This is why tulpa.info keeps the meta channel. The scientific community is notorious for doing this kind of thing.
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@Spoony#1628 I was too nice to say it but thanks for doing it about the smiley
1:45 PM
@Xe you do those in paint?
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@Pleeb thanks for posting that!
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@Alice Apple Notes
1:49 PM
that way i can search by the sigil contents
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Oh, nice.
3:38 PM
How is it on PC vs physically drawing them on paper or something?
3:39 PM
Or even just visualizing really hard, if you've ever tried that
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Albino Elephant 1/16/2019 6:51 PM
Paper is better cause you can enchant your pencil or pen 👌
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You can always print the drawing, at least
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@Albino Elephant what's stopping you from enchanting your hands or 🐁 or keyboard
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Albino Elephant 1/16/2019 10:43 PM
That wouldn't be as effective
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A: Why not?
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I don't get this stuff but I would guess it's at least partly because when you draw or write with a pen/pencil on paper there's a more intuitive and intimate bond between your actions and what comes out on the paper, while with anything digital it's less direct and there's more separation between your hand movements and the resulting drawing.
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Albino Elephant 1/19/2019 5:08 PM
Yes. Your focus is better on pen and paper along with there being a very direct connection between your hand and the drawing. When enchanting it there is also the fact that the pen or pencil literally goes into the drawing in ink or lead. So the same material that you enchanted makes up the drawing.
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A: Why couldnt I just enchant my printer ink? And what if I use a tablet and a stylus to draw? It's just as intimate as pen and paper, then. Why would it be any different than if I just enchant the tablet, stylus and printer ink?
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This is a serious question: could one create a construct to convert water to holy water, hook it up to a fire hydrant, and use it to flood a haunted house? Maybe not a fire hydrant, but the bathroom tub, you get the point.
6:56 PM
@Alice
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A: I'm not trying to just be argumentative, but it sounds like arbitrary rules for the sake of them and nothing else.
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Eh, when it comes to these kind of things I believe anything works as long as you believe in it. I mean if it helps you chanel your energy and intent towards your purpose you may use whichever support material you prefer.
7:00 PM
I've seen wiccans for example that use wands, but anything you do with one can be done without it. It simply helps you direct your intend.
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I believe that belief is power and it's always worked for me
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@Pleeb I think you might need a few priests flr charging that holy water construct though
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And they might not be ok with your chaos magic approach but this IS 2019
7:43 PM
I like your...spirit
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@Akasha Chess used to get into arguments with people after that. Check out my "reality" document, it touches on willpower vs energy.
7:44 PM
I think....
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Arguments on what?
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It needs permission to view on my end (edited)
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She was saying doing active energy manipulation-- damnit one sec
7:46 PM
Try again
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Worked
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I remember this thing, you all had me seriously considering metaphysics back then.
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Well Reguille, one reason to consider metaphisics
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*y
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Should be because it seems to rely heavily on mind's power
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Which is one force to recon
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But as for what you take out of the sea of informations on the topic
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Is up to you
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Take it with a grain of salt
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And it should do no harm to anyone
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I've done quite a bit of looking, my end conclusion is that it's a great practice or ritual of the mind, but that it isn't the case if you attempt to leave the mind. For example, metaphysics may be great to ease anxiety, but not to help you find money. It can make you feel it is pushing your life in a better place, but it is unlikely to actually do so.
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Oh but it can help you find money. I believe it is because you set your mind to it
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But that's getting away from the topic so I'll leave the discussion at that
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And as a result
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You are more likely to take action
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And actually obtain them
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I'll look it up
7:52 PM
Some of all that seems like fluff to me, tbh
7:53 PM
I mean you certainly can develop as a being to a huge degree but willpower alone does not make much happen unless followed by action
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Moving energy and all the stuff is pretty much not even needed, basically. In the end it comes down to belief and willpower. you can spend time creating a construct, filtering the energy through all of your chakras and doing all this other stuff, or you can just will it into existence.
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Perhaps in your inner world, in your wonderland you can say "so I'm a god now" and be that
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Or something like that
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But when you interact with someone outside of it
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that's basically what chess was a testing, the same way you can do that in your wonderland you could also do outside in the astral
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Well the astral seems like a common ground from what I see.
7:56 PM
So yeah, let's say you did that and you went god level and such (didn't get the whole convo)
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That does not give you any advantage in a world where
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The person next to you can do the very same thing
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So the whole fight thing has no point really
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You start on an equal base and what will make the difference then
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Is not the willpower
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Rather the creativity and strategy of said fighters
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From where I see it
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Chess was saying it does when they're holding themselves back, or something like that.
7:57 PM
(actually about to drive but I'll read up)
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If we aretalking about energy work and sparring then the point isn't about advantage so much as learning how the universe works around you
8:27 PM
Knowledge is it's own reward imo
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Chess taught me a lot about astral/energy stuff when I was grasping for straws at understanding all the strange feedback/visuals/experiences and other crazy shit when I first got into the OEC
8:37 PM
Cut a lot of the fluff out. Our minds are all we have to interact with this strange phenomenon and half the time our minds are full of junk it seems
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If you want you can use three backticks to create a quote ```like so``` like so (edited)
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oh wow technology
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Albino Elephant 1/19/2019 10:30 PM
@Beckett enchanting the printer ink would work near as well, yeah. They aren't arbitrary rules at all. Even if most don't believe so there is a logical processs for why certain things work better than others and even if you believe they don't then after a bit of experience you will notice a difference.
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